Glad to friend back.....actually, this fracas has drawn me back out of my shell as well on LJ-comm Otherkin, as I've been lurking (more-or-less ignoring, actually) since last year, when there were some rather vicious ideological conflicts on the other otherkin group, and the people I found on the opposing side were also largely in this group as well. There, one problem was over some people not wanting to tolerate other people's openly expressing their firm beliefs in having a purpose, or in having a soul, just because it's not what they themselves are into or accept or feel comfortable with...petty hyper-skepticism, like I said, and a lot of attacking apparently just 'cause the "hands off" stasis was disturbed, because one person's positive certainty can often threaten another's negative uncertainty regardless of the actual content or intent. I know I have a purpose; I know I have a soul; I know I've had past lives -- those matters are not up for debate...
And another and crucial issue was the whole "You're all delusional and let me prove it" attitude that one (non-kin) member had -- well, you'd be amazed at the tolerance that some otherkin have for people who are bent on attacking their sanity...it's almost like they're cowed by the whole clustering of "mental disorders" about them (bipolarity and ADD and Aspergers and dyslexia being high correlates) and can't rouse the energy to defend themselves as being sane at all. Or even to simply toss the troll out of the group, which I suggested was our right -- funny, he had more "friends" there, though, who'd rather attack me for rocking the boat.
I'm rambling. I should be in bed, 'cause my multitasking has taken this into broad daylight. Anyhow, that's a brief summary of what issues I've had with LJ comms -- in the ones on Yahell, I tend to find the opposite problem of being too careful and harmoniously-shallow and too accepting-of-everyone-and-whatever-they-say, and so openminded that with some you can hear the etheric winds blowing through and taking tumbleweeds with 'em. Many a tale I could tell...*sigh*
But it's good to have a real group rumble bringin' up the energy level again, 'cause I think otherkin often forget who their real 'enemies' are online -- the people who don't think enough, don't use logic at all, or simplify things into absurdities around their own sense of self-importance. Differences of personal belief within the subculture are fairly negligible compared to outright arrogant idiocy plus delusions.
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Date: 2007-03-22 03:51 pm (UTC)And another and crucial issue was the whole "You're all delusional and let me prove it" attitude that one (non-kin) member had -- well, you'd be amazed at the tolerance that some otherkin have for people who are bent on attacking their sanity...it's almost like they're cowed by the whole clustering of "mental disorders" about them (bipolarity and ADD and Aspergers and dyslexia being high correlates) and can't rouse the energy to defend themselves as being sane at all. Or even to simply toss the troll out of the group, which I suggested was our right -- funny, he had more "friends" there, though, who'd rather attack me for rocking the boat.
I'm rambling. I should be in bed, 'cause my multitasking has taken this into broad daylight. Anyhow, that's a brief summary of what issues I've had with LJ comms -- in the ones on Yahell, I tend to find the opposite problem of being too careful and harmoniously-shallow and too accepting-of-everyone-and-whatever-they-say, and so openminded that with some you can hear the etheric winds blowing through and taking tumbleweeds with 'em. Many a tale I could tell...*sigh*
But it's good to have a real group rumble bringin' up the energy level again, 'cause I think otherkin often forget who their real 'enemies' are online -- the people who don't think enough, don't use logic at all, or simplify things into absurdities around their own sense of self-importance. Differences of personal belief within the subculture are fairly negligible compared to outright arrogant idiocy plus delusions.